bellosimo

British scholar Noel Malcom in his book "A short history of Bosnia" printed in Britain offers valuable research about the racial relationship between Iranians and some ethnicities of the former Yugoslavia. He writes: "The name Croat, or Hravat in Serbian, is not a Serbian word. It is similar to the Iranian name Choroatos, found on tombstones of Greek dwelling regions of south Russia." He goes on to add that the original form of the word is "Khoravat" as mentioned in Avesta, meaning "friendly".

Historical studies indicate that the Croats started migrating from the Iranian homeland to Croatia, Serbia and Bosnia about 3,000 years ago. However, a much larger migration took place about 1,700 years ago. Probably the reason behind this migration was the suppression of the followers of Manichean faith during the Sassanid era. The said scholar LSO says that the word Serb has also Iranian origin, which can be recognized in the word "Charv" meaning cattle.

According top ancient documents, these two ethnic groups were tribes of Iranian origin that had accepted Slavic subjects among themselves.

Noel Malcom says that new theories confirm historical knowledge. Some Croatian nationalist theoreticians have opted to adopt the theory linking their origins to Iran, thereby preserving their cultural and psychological independence, in order not to merge into the neighboring cultures. Such a theory gained particular popularity during World War II, for Iranians were considered to have a higher ranking compared to the Slava in terms of racial hierarchy. However, in Malcom's words, the plain historical fact is that both the Croats and the Serbs migrated at the same time, and both have some characteristics of Iranian peoples.

One point is clear: the early immigrants called themselves Khoravat or Croat in order to distinguish with other tribes of that region. These Iranian-origin immigrants also did something more to stress the difference: they tied a handkerchief around their necks, something which later gained global popularity under the name of Cravat.

In 1656 CE, Louis XIV formed a regiment of Croat volunteers inside his army. The members of this regiment, in accordance to their ancient tradition, wore a neckerchief of plain of floral silk, its ends dangling from the tie. It could also be used as bandage if the soldier was wounded. After this time the Croatian scarf was accepted in France, above all in court, where military ornaments were much admired. The fashionable expression, �a la croate�, soon evolved into a new French word, which still exists today: la cravate. Some 170 years later, the necktie became a universal fashion. It would be worthwhile to add that the Croatian national flag is derived from the chessboard, thus some nationalist historians consider Croatians the descendants of Bozorgmehr, the chess master and minister of the Sassanid era.

Talking of the global influence of Persian, it would also be interesting to not that the word Pajamas has Persian origins, meaning "leg ware". My mind drifts back to the Mauritanian desert. In an isolated oasis, an old man opens an ancient book, reading with not so familiar accent, one of the great poems of Sa'adi" "Human beings are organs of one body."





To date, 120 Croat and non-Croat university professors and several academics have compiled 249 research works of which many have been printed in various publications and thereby have proven that Croats are of Iranian origin.

There are many real evidences about the identity of ancient Croats which all dismiss the theory that Croats are of Slav origin. Although research works on the Iranian origin of the Croats could not be publicized due to the censorship that was widely practiced at the time of the former regime in Yugoslavia, however, the available documented evidences reveal that the initiator of the effort on research about the Iranian origin of the Croats lived two centuries ago.

In his thesis in 1797, the researcher made a study on the Iranian origin of the Croats and reached the conclusion that the present day Croats migrated from the western part of ancient Iran.

Following the formation of Yugoslavia in 1918, the bigot Slavs known as the "wolves" collected the original copies of the research work and destroyed them in an attempt to conceal the truth about the Iranian origin of the Croats. To date, only some part of the research work that has been quoted in a report prepared by the academy of sciences of former Yugoslavia in 1938 is available.

One of the articles has quoted some police reports that the then government in former Yugoslavia mounted pressures on Iranologists within the period 1918 to 1990. The article further proves that upon official instructions by the then government, Croats had to be considered as the middle ages Slavs. For this same reason, all the research works conducted over the origin of the Croats were considered as criminal acts and thus prohibited for a period of 70 years. All the research papers compiled by Iranologists were confiscated as documents against state interests and the researchers were imprisoned or sent to detention camps. Even four researchers were killed by the Yugoslav secret police for making investigations over the issue.

However, there are other research works proving that 75 percent of the Croats are different in origin from the Slavs and more similar to Kurds and Armenians from genetic point of view. On the other hand, studies show that there are less similarities between domestic livestock, poultry and plants in the old time Croatia with those in Europe, lending further proof to the fact that Croats had most probably migrated from a region close to Asia to their present area.

Former Croat homeland and their migration
A manuscript dating back to 1370 B.C. has named the present day Croats and their language as Hurrvuhe (resembling Hrvati).

In the era of the Achaemenid, especially at the time of Cyrus II and Darius I, the name of the eastern Iranian province Harauvatya and the Croats of the ancient Iran Harauvatis and Harahvaiti have been mentioned for 12 times. In addition, two unearthed manuscripts belonging to the Croats living in the second and third centuries B.C. in ancient Iran have referred to the inhabitants of Horooouathos and Horoathoi. In the year 418, the Aryans were dubbed as Horites and Zachariasrhetor, in 559 the Aryan horse riders were referred to as Hrwts who lived in the vicinity of Krima and Azova and in the 7th century Croats were called as Slavs.

Other articles offered to the symposium discussed formation of the empire at the time of Cyrus the Great, history of the Croats in ancient Iran and Croat's development from the time of ancient Indians to the time of their migration in the middle ages from the Caucasus through ancient Persian to the present Adriatic and emergence of the first traces of Croats which could be classified as follow:
Harahvaiti and Harauvati in Iran and Afghanistan
Hurravat and Hurrvuhe in Armenia and Georgia
Horoouathos in Azova and the Black Sea
Present day Croats Horvati and Hrvati along the Adriatic
First contacts between old-time Slavs and Croats of ancient Iran
Research works have been conducted on the relationship between the language spoken by the Croats and the language the present-day Slavs speak with an aim to identify the possible similarities. However, the studies do not dismiss the possibility that the old-time Croats were part of the ancient Iran at the time of the Persian Empire who later migrated to Europe and their language was changed into the Slav.

Meanwhile, studies on the Croats indicate that the old-time Slavs did not share the same race with the East European nations and that with the migration of the Croats with the Iranian origin, they established common cultural and lingual ties with each other.

Ties with the old-time Slavs in the 4th century was first established in the Red Croatia under the title Sarmatskim-Horitima and also after the 6th century in the realm of the Carpathians within the boundaries of the Great, or White, Croatia under the patronage of the Iranian Croats who had been turned Slavs due to the largeness of the population of the Slavs.

Iranology and old-tine language of Croats
Studies show that there had been various stages in which the Croats had been pressured for accepting the language of the Slavs and annexation to former Yugoslavia. The idea was realized by the Serb nationalist Karadzic whose slogan was "Serbs everywhere". He invited all bigot Slavist Serbs to the Vienna Congress in the middle of the 19th century for a political and lingual consensus and for adopting policies for the future of former Yugoslavia. In the aftermath of the agreements reached in the gathering and from 1890 the pro-Karadzic Slavists launched their activities for the elimination of all signs of cultural and lingual differences between the Serbs and the Croats. To this end, they changed the past history of the Croats and eliminated all the terms with Indo-Iranian roots that did not exist in the Serbian language. Such a trend continued until 1918 when Yugoslavia was formed.

The process for the change of the spoken language of the Croats of ancient Iran to the language of Slavs that was started in the 7th century continued up to the 20th century and was forcefully followed by former Yugoslavia.

Mazdaism, ancient myths and religion of Croats
In addition to similarities in language, common cultural points can be pointed out as well. For example, reference can be made to the symbols belonging to the old-time Christians that resembled symbols of Mazdaism in the ancient Iran.

A study in this connection has drawn a parallel between the language used in Bosnia and littoral states and islands of the Adriatic Sea in two separate sections. The study further elaborates how followers of Mazda in ancient Iran converted to Christianity in Europe and how Mazdaism was spread in Europe by the migration of the inhabitants of the above-mentioned areas.

Other research works have studied the influence of traditions in ancient Iran on the symbols of the roots of old Christianity from the ancient time to the middle ages.

Identity of old-time Croat tribes
Research works conducted in the past decade discuss the similarities between names and families used in the ancient-time Iran and the names and families in present Croatia. Some of these studies have pointed to the roots of alphabetic letters in the Croat language and stressed that contrary to the claims of the Slavs the roots of those letters are totally oriental and widely used at ancient times. Many manuscripts written with those letters date back to before 9th century.

Research studies on the style of dressing of the Croats show that they were dressed up as the Sassanid and most of the local costumes of women were exactly similar to those worn by women at the time of the ancient Iranian empire.

Studies on other features of the Croats such as navigation reject the Slav presumption that the Croats had not have navigated before but that they had rather learnt the art from the Italians. According to the studies, there are evidences available that the Croats were acquainted with sailing even before the Slavs and that the time for their navigation in the Adriatic goes back to the 6th and 7th centuries. It should be noted that local Croat navigators were known as "Indo-Iranian" and "Slavs" in the Adriatic.

an iranian style croat!

PersianFire

we have Iranians with natural light hair and light eyes, so where dose come from?

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“Every rock and tree and creature, has a life, has a spirit, and has a name”

Khalvate man

They came from Europa !

bellosimo

Aziz ooni ke migi male chandin hezar saal pish bood,ghable inke arab va diggar adamha ba nasle arya mix beshan,ma natural skin colour sefid boode,hair light brown boode,va cheshma light!
alan ham mibini miane iraniha in chehraha ra vali kheili kam,

Khalvate man

Kamelan eshtebah hast, hich rabti be arab nadare, kolan adamhaie khavar miane cheshm abro meshki va sabze hastan. Va age bazi ha poste sefid va bor hastan on afrad az ghesmate Kohestani mian chon onja hava sard hast. Lotfan nazariate alaki az khodeton nagid.

bellosimo

aziz anche tarikhe ma be man gofte daram migam,age rishe shoma cheshm meshki va mo meshki hastesh,shoma kamelan az avalin nasle arya naboodid.so by all means ur not a full blooded aryian and neither is anybody else.

boback

avalan threade jaleby bood, marboot be 1000 sale pishe iran bood, dovoaman harfe shoma ham doroste, iraniha tanha bekhatare hamleye arabha range moo va cheshmeshoon siah nist, arabha farzan 100, 000 nafareshoon be iran hamle karde bashan, ke ragham hatman az in paeentar hast,

iran dar zamane hakhamaneshian 5 melioon nafar jamiate dashte, ba ehtesabe masahaty ke emperatoorye hakhamaneshy dashte raghame ziady nist, pas dar zamane Sasanian ke zamane halmleye arab hastesh mishe goft irane feli (shekle gorbe) chizi dar hodoode 4.5 ta 5 melioon nafar jamiat dashte, dar natije ba halameye 100,000 nafar nemishe tarakome nejadie ye keshvaro beham zad, chon nesbate arabha be jamiate iran kam boode az nazare tedad.

pas chera irania mo meshki hastand? aya rishsyeye aryaee darand ya kheir?

javab bale, iraniha risheye aryaee darand, va ta zamane zartoshte bozorg daraye cheshmaye roshan va mohaye boor ya roshan boodand, ama dar asare zistan dar sarzamine khavar miane range cheshm va mo avaz shode, hamintor ba mardomi ke ghabl az aryaeeha dar falate iran boodand amizesh dashtand, ama baz nesbate jamiate aryaeeha besiar ziadtar boode az sakeneine falate iran, ine ke tasire kami dar jine iraniha dashte.

range chesm dar asare range eneabie avaz mishe, enebiye ye azole hast, ke hamoontor ke poost dar aftab taghire rang mide, on azoleham be moroor tire tar mishe.

omidavaram ghazie yekami baratoon roshan shode bashe.

Khalvate_man

Mersi mokhtasar va mofid. Vali khastam begam ke hatta be mardome zamane hakhamaneshi negah koni, hame sabze manand va por rish o sibil bodand va kheili ham shebahat be mardome afrighai dashtand albate bishtar shomale afrigha mesle mesrian.

bellosimo

agha ma aslan siah hastim ,happy!

boback

camelan doroste, on mojasmehaee ke dar takhte jamshid vojood darand, shabahaty be mardome on zaman nadarand, dalilesham ine ke hakhamaneshian az memaran va honarmandaye sayere keshvarha baraye sakhtane kakheshoon estefade cardan, bishtare in honarmanda male sarzamine Babel, va ya mesr boodand, agar shoma be memarie babelian tavajoh konid hamin sabke mojasame sazio dar onja mibinid, ineke sabke memarie takhte jamshid babeli hast, va in dalili hast ke mojasameha shabihe be mardome babel hastand.

shoma agar ketabha va naghashiane roomiane ghadim(doshmanane iran) ro dide bashid, dar onha iraniha besoorate boor va cheshmane rooshan besiar ziad hastand, marde namaki nemoooneee az mardome on zaman hast ke dar ghary dar hamedan peyda shod, va be elate soghoote dar ye hofreye namak, sooratesh salem moonde bood, ke takhmin zade mishe 3000 sale pish miziste, va daraye mohaye boor bood.

agar deghat konid aksare iraniha siahe camel nistan, va kami boori daran kheily kam, ama zaman va abo hava range mo va posto avaz mikone.