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Salam alaikom

khob daram kam kam baz ja mioftam, dastam dobare dare rah miofte be Thread zadano bargashtam be Offtopic

begzarim ke jaye kheiliha khalie, va fekresho ke mikonam dastam be neveshtane kar nemire, vali dostane jadide golio mibinam ke yeki az yeki behtaro bahal taran

omidvaram janbeye hamishegie bachehae PH mahfooz monde bashe

khob alan migin in Ramajuna kie, rabti be Marijuana dare?

na esme ye characterie ke toye bahse alanam azash estefade mishe

pas in matne zir ro ke az Osho hastesh (nemidonam Oshoro khondin karasho vali khondanesh khali az lotf nist) bekhonid

agar titlesh yekam Cliche i bood zade nashid, bahse daghi khahad bood GARANTI

bekhonid va baz zire safe bahso edame midam (ba ma bashid, tirip TV lol)

In ahangam goosh konid vaghti mikhonid, ahange ghashangie



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آيا تاكنون عاشق كسي بوده اي؟






راماجونا در روستايي اقامتي كوتاه داشت.
مردي نزد او آمد و به او گفت كه مي خواهد خداوند را تجربه كند.

راماجونا از او پرسيد، "آيا تاكنون عاشق كسي بوده اي؟"

مرد پاسخ داد: "نه من هرگز به اين چيزهاي پيش پاافتاده فكر نمي كنم. من هرگز اين چيزهاي پست را طالب نيستم، من مي خواهم خدا را تجربه كنم."

راماجونا دوباره پرسيد، "آيا هيچگاه به عشق فكر نكرده اي؟"

مرد با تاكيد تمام پاسخ داد: "من حقيقت را مي گويم."

مرد بيچاره درست مي گفت. در دنياي مذهب، عاشق بودن يك عدم صلاحيت است. او يقين داشت كه اگر مي گفت عاشق كسي بوده، آن پير از او خواهد خواست تا خودش را در همانجا و هم اكنون از آن خلاص كند __ كه وابستگي ها را رها سازد و عواطف دنيايي را ترك گويد تا بتواند از او درخواست ارشاد كند. بنابراين حتي اگر هم كسي را دوست مي داشته، پاسخ منفي داد. زيرا كجا مي توانيد شخصي را پيدا كنيد كه هرگز، كمي هم عاشق نبوده باشد؟

راماجونا براي سومين بار پرسيد، "چيزي بگو، خوب فكر كن. نه حتي كمي عشق؟ __ براي يك نفر، براي هيچكس؟ آيا هيچكس را حتي كمي هم دوست نداشته اي؟"

سالك گفت، "مرا ببخش، ولي چرا يك سوال را بارها و بارها تكرار مي كني؟ من حتي از فاصله اي دور هم عشق را لمس نكرده ام. من مي خواهم خدا را تجربه كنم."

آنوقت در اينجا راماجونا گفت، "پس تو بايد مرا معذور بداري. لطفاً نزد ديگري برو. تجربه ي من نشان مي دهد كه اگر كسي را دوست داشته باشي، هر كسي را، كه اگر مزه اي از عشق را چشيده باشي، آن عشق مي تواند به چنان نقطه اي گسترش يابد كه به خداوند برسد. ولي اگر تو هرگز عاشق نبوده اي، آنوقت چيزي در درون نداري كه رشد بدهي. تو آن بذر را نداري كه بتواند به يك درخت رشد يابد. برو و از ديگري بپرس."
اگر بين يك زن و شوهر عشق نباشد... اگر زن عشق به شوهر را نشناخته باشد و شوهر هم عشق ورزيدن به زنش را نشناسد، اگر فكر كنيد كه اينان قادر خواهند بود به فرزندانشان عشق بدهند، در اشتباه تاسف بار و اندوه آوري هستيد!

مادر تنها مي تواند به آن اندازه عاشق پسرش باشد كه عاشق شوهرش است __ زيرا آن پسر بازتاب شوهرش است.

اگر عشقي براي شوهر نباشد، چطور ممكن است عشق به كودك وجود داشته باشد؟

و اگر به كودك عشق داده نشده باشد - فقط بزرگ كردن و بارآوردن فرزندان، عشق نيست - چطور از فرزند انتظار داريد كه مادر و پدرش را دوست بدارد؟

khob, bahse man ine ke in tikei ke highlight ghermez kardam ba chizi ke dar vagheiat tajrobe mishe moghayerat dare

aya gheir az in nist ke madar az pedar joda shode, va madar pesaresho ba khodesh mibare bozorg mikone? ba inke az pedar nefrat dare chetor enghadr ba sakhtiha misaze ta pesare khodesh ro bozorg kone?

va aya jense eshghi ke madar be pesaresh dare, ya pedar be dokhtaresh dare, az hamon eshghie ke be hamsare khodeshon daran?

in baraye man eshtebas, man fekr mikonam har eshghi yek jense khase khodesho dare, agar gharar bood hamaro yekjor doost dashte bashim dige lazem nabod to zendegi donbale eshghaye digari chon hamsar, farzand... va gheire berim...

Doost daram nazare shomaro bedonam

agaram nazari nisto matno nakhondid behtare bere in thread nadide gerefte beshe

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Farzand jozvi az pedar o madar hast,

Yani ham pedar va ham madar farzandeshon ro ghesmati az khodeshon midonan, ama in be in mani nist bekhartere shohar, yek madar farzandesho dost dashte basheh,

PAs in bachehaye talagh chetori bozorg mishan?

On eshghe beyne pedar ba bachash va ya madar ba bachash mitone kheyli fargh dashte basheh o hata toye nahveye borozesh shabahati ziad nabasheh,

Ama bazi vaghat in ye vagheiyate ke masalan yek madar nozade pesaresho az hamon bachegi ba esghe tamam bozorg mikone be omidi ke yerozi asaye dastesh besheh hata dar nabode shoharesh,

Kheyli mikham dar in bare harf bezanam ama mokham nemikesheh , inja 5 sobhe
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Farzand jozvi az pedar o madar hast,

Yani ham pedar va ham madar farzandeshon ro ghesmati az khodeshon midonan, ama in be in mani nist bekhartere shohar, yek madar farzandesho dost dashte basheh,

PAs in bachehaye talagh chetori bozorg mishan?

On eshghe beyne pedar ba bachash va ya madar ba bachash mitone kheyli fargh dashte basheh o hata toye nahveye borozesh shabahati ziad nabasheh,

Ama bazi vaghat in ye vagheiyate ke masalan yek madar nozade pesaresho az hamon bachegi ba esghe tamam bozorg mikone be omidi ke yerozi asaye dastesh besheh hata dar nabode shoharesh,

Kheyli mikham dar in bare harf bezanam ama mokham nemikesheh , inja 5 sobhe
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manam bahat movafegham

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joda shodane donafar az ham dalil bar adame vojoode eshgh beineshoon nist, eshgh hichvaght az bein nemire, faghat dar hafezeye ensan (onam hame na) kamrangtar mishe, ama aslesh hamishe vojood dare.
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joda shodane donafar az ham dalil bar adame vojoode eshgh beineshoon nist, eshgh hichvaght az bein nemire, faghat dar hafezeye ensan (onam hame na) kamrangtar mishe, ama aslesh hamishe vojood dare.
ghabol nadaram in harfo be dalile inke harcheghadram bekhaim zendegie zanashoio pichidash konim bazam hamon dokhtar pesaran va adatashon az bein nemire

va sanadam ham ine ke hamontor ke adam mitone az GF ya az BF begzare va bere donbale yeki dige, az hamsaresh ham mitone vali zamane bishtario sadameye bishtari mizane

Merci az nazaret doste aziz
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ghabol nadaram in harfo be dalile inke harcheghadram bekhaim zendegie zanashoio pichidash konim bazam hamon dokhtar pesaran va adatashon az bein nemire

va sanadam ham ine ke hamontor ke adam mitone az GF ya az BF begzare va bere donbale yeki dige, az hamsaresh ham mitone vali zamane bishtario sadameye bishtari mizane

Merci az nazaret doste aziz
bale mitoone begzare, ama on eshgh dar ensan mimoone, momkene khode ensan nadoone, ama asle eshgh hast. baraye hamin kheilya mitoonan az gf ghabli ya zaneshoon (ke be ghole shoma sakhtar hast), begzaran va ye eshghe taze peyda konan. ama in eshghe ghabli az bein nemire, balke be soorate zaeef ta abad baghy mimoone.
baraye hamin hast, ke dashtane eshgho ehsas ba chandin nafar mitoone be ravane ensan asibhaye jedy bezane.
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bale mitoone begzare, ama on eshgh dar ensan mimoone, momkene khode ensan nadoone, ama asle eshgh hast. baraye hamin kheilya mitoonan az gf ghabli ya zaneshoon (ke be ghole shoma sakhtar hast), begzaran va ye eshghe taze peyda konan. ama in eshghe ghabli az bein nemire, balke be soorate zaeef ta abad baghy mimoone.
baraye hamin hast, ke dashtane eshgho ehsas ba chandin nafar mitoone be ravane ensan asibhaye jedy bezane.
ahan gereftam alan manzoreto, pas eshgh dar vaghe tajrobe mishe bad hala ke eshgho midonim chie on eshgho montaghel mikonim be farzand...?

hala bahse man ine ke, Noe eshgh aya nabayad fargh kone? eshghe nesbat be harchizi dide khodesho nadare?

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