Symourgh

emsaal saale bozorgdaashte Molavi e'laam shode. chand rooz pish ye maghaale dar San Francisco Chronicle khundam ke dar haghighat ye ghadrdaanist az in bozorgvaare IRANI. doost daram ba shoma ham share konam.

nashriyeye "San Francisco Chronicle" keh yeki az mohemtarin nashriyaate jahaane, ke dar gozashteh ham maghaalaate ziaadi dar baareye Iran va Zartosht va aatash kadehaaye Irani va nasle baastaaniye Irani zekr kardeh, matlabe besiar mohemmi 3 rooz pish neveshteh dar baareye yek Irani keh ashaarash tarafdaaran va alaaghemandane bishomari dar Emrica daareh.

yek Irani ke bish az in jariaanaate terroristi va jariaane 9/11 e Emrica, mokhaatebaane khodesh ra dar Emrica taskhir kardeh bood, yek Irani ke payaambare solh va eshgh va doosti bood. yek Irani ke dar doraane nasl koshi zendegi mikrad, ya'ni doraane hojoome Moghol, ya'ni doraane ghaarat va tajaavoz va koshtaare saazeman yaafteh dar tamaame naahiyeye khaavare miaaneh, va dar dorrane nasl koshi dar Iran. Iran az jam'eeat taghriban tohi va khaali shode bood. Iran ba'd az hamleye Moghol faghat ba 5% jam'eeatesh be hayaate khodesh edaameh daad, baghiyeye Iranian mordeh boodan, koshteh shode boodan. in marde bozorgvaar
dar oon asr va doraan zendegi mikard. manzooram jenaabe bozorgvaar Molaana Jalaloldine Balkhi(Molavi) hast.

ashaar va neveshtehaaye Molaanaa, in Iraniye bozorgvaar Emrica ra ghabl az 9/11 taskhir karde bood. hich shaa'eri be andaazeye oo dar Emrica khaanandeh nadaareh. oo morede ehteraame jahaniaane, be khaatere ashaaresh, be khaatere tafakkoraatesh va andishehaayesh. "San Francisco Chronicle" eshaare mikoneh be tars va vahshati ke emroozeh az jaanebe Eslam padid aamadeh, va migeh in Iraniye bozorgvar dar 800 saale pish nefrat va enzejaare khodesh ra az nefrat va enzejaar e'laam karde bood va gofte bood agar sheytaan aashegh besheh, tabdil beh fereshteh khaahad shod, ya'ni inghadr baraaye eshgh arzesh va e'tebaar ghaael bood va migoft dar vojoode doshmanetoon donbaale khosoomat nagardid, dar vojoode doshmanaan misheh gohare doosti va aaraameshe roohi ra kashf kard. az dide Molaanaa fekr kardan beh doshmaniha be ma'naaye khod aazaarist. tosiyeye Molaanaa ineh keh be doshmaniha andisheh nakonid. doshman az shoma chi mikhaad? mikhaad az shoma yek jahannam besaazeh. behesh ejaazeye in kar ra nadid.

"San Francisco Chronicle" mighe in Molaanaa, shaaere Irani hamsaan va hamaanandde payaambaraan bood, va mighe ke motefakeraane doraane gharane 20, mesle Gahndi va Martin Luther King az tafakkoraat va andishehaaye in marde bozorgvaar Molaana nash'at gerefteh va oo bonyaad nahaadeh. bashariat be oo bedeh kaare, bashariat be in Iraniye bozorgvaar vaame bozorgi bedehkaare. maa Iraniha baayad be in pedare bozorge khodemoon sepaas begim, baayad tashakkor konim. oo hanooz ham ke hanooze asbaabe aaberooye ma Iranihast. oo nistesh, vali esmesh, vojoodesh va aasaaresh kamaakaan baraaye maa aaberoo mikhareh, heyssiat mikhareh. ya'ni doroost ba'd az 800 saal engaar oo aamadeh va ghasd daareh ke dar moghaabeleh va zedde on filme 300 tablo e raa baalaa begireh keh rooye aan az madaniate Iraniha sokhan beh miaan amadeh. har an cheh ke az madaniat va aaberooye Irani daarim az oo va ashkhaasi manande oo(Khayaam) daarim. an hameh arzesh haye sotoodani az hamin Iraniha ast, az niaakaani maanandde oo va Khayyam. Molaana migeh: "az mohabbat, khaar haa gol mishavad."

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saeed121

che eshareye jalebi dashte be "eshgh"

maktabe eshgh yani ghotbe mokhalefe eslam

eslam ro bechelooni ye doone vajeye "eshgh" azash biroon nemiad.
divane bozorgani mesle sanayi, molavi, hafez, abu saeed abolkheyr labrize az in vajeh.

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Symourgh

Islam eshghesh ine ke bege dast o pa beborid, cheshm dar biarid.
Eslam ageh eshgh saresh mishod ke oon hame aasheghane Iran ro
az zireh tigh nemigzarund va oon hame kotobe asheghaneye
Irani ro nemisoozund.

merci az ashaari ke post kardi

HamPyale

let me correct you, hichvaght to islam gofte nashode ke cheshm dar biarid

jomleye dovometam ingooneh sahih mikonam

agar Omar Ibn Khtaab dark sahih az islaam dasht va vaghean moslmaan bod va ghoran ro onjoori ke hast dark mikard, on hame ro az zire tigh nemigzaond va on hame ketaab ro nemisozond. (Amir AlMomenin Ali Ibn Abitaleb, dar kotobe tarikhi mitooni peida konid ke in kaar Omar ro man'e karde va barha mokhalefate khodesho elaam karde dar jahaye mokhtalef, Ali yek Moslmaan vaghei va Ghoran Naategh bod, in masale jaaye digeh ham sabet shode ke vaghty Omar mimire az Ali mikhan ke Khalifeh beshe va be tarigh Sonat Pyambar, Ghoran va Sheikhin yani do khalife ghabl khelafat kone, Ke Ali 2 ta shart aval ro mipazire vali shart akhar ro nemipazire, in khodesh yek nemoneie dige az mokhalefate imam ali ba tarigheye Khelafate Ibn Khtaabe)

Symourgh

You think you're correcting me? Try again. Why do you ignore the evidence and facts?
Isn't it true that in your religion if you make a mistake, either out of necessity
or out of stupidity and steal an egg, your shari'e law can cut your left hand?
And if you repeat the offense the 2nd time, then they cut your right hand and 3rd time,
they can kill you(cut your head off?). Isn't it true if you're human and fall in love
with a woman, or if your natural physical needs draws you to a woman and sleep
with her, your shari'e law can kill both of you(stone to death?). Where is love and
forgiveness in your religion?

Try to find one poem in Molavi's vast poetry that he aired his anger from
savages of Mongols and their atrocities. You don't think he could haveadvocated violence,
revenge, and acts of "an eye for an eye" in his poetries? But he didn't, instead he talks
about love, forgiveness. Go figure that

HamPyale

yes, God says if someones steals something their hand must be cut. (be Sharteha va Shorotaha) you or me cant cut someones hand, we dont have the authority, only in islamic state (which not even one exists) this can take place. the crime must be proven and must have witnesses. but on the other hand Prophet p.b.u.h said: if you saw someone made a mistake, dont tell me, if you do i have to obey shari'a and do what god has commanded, insted you can forgive and by forgiving you can teach that person not to steal.

your second claim is totaly false, no one gets stoned for having sex with someone eles, adultry is much different then having sex, adultry is when a marrid man or women have sex with another marrid man or woman, that is adultry and has very restrict rules (example: 4 witnesses[Men] or 8 witnesses [Women]) for it to take place. however two people having sex has a diffrent punishment which is called had, and its 80 lashes, again we cant do it and it can only be done in islamic state.

Symourgh

No 'BUTs' or 'IF's. Bottom line the religion you're defending does
not preach love and forgiveness. You're admitting those harsh shari'e rules do exist in islam, but at the same time the prophet is willing to look the other way when the offense does occur, instead of accepting that human being is 'jaayezol khata', and should try to help the poor guy, instead of cutting his hands. When your prophet was willing to close his eyes, block his ears, it did not mean he was forgiving. It meant he didn't want to deal with the problem. On the contrary when Mollavi's homeland was invaded, looted and his people murdered, he was willing to forgive and instead preach love and steadfastness.

You say Islam does not punish fornicators, harshly? May be not stoning them, but does punish people for engaging in a natural show of love. Do you say it's better to make war, than love?

darvish

saeed jan in ghazal mano mibare be khalseh... mamnoon

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HamPyale

you are debating base on assumption only. i am no saying anything against Molavi.

islam is 100% the religon o flove and peace, however islam is a religon that was created to rule the country at the same time. there is punishments in everygovernment and so it is in islam.

prophet didnt want to look away, insted he thought people to forgive, he talked to them about how god forgives and told them to forgive each other. God has a reason for making someone poor and someone rich, each individual has its own impact in this world, and god expect the same amount as he gave them. you cannot change what god gave you by doing a wrong act.

zamaane payambar rahzanani bodand ke moslmaan shodand o be islam avardand, dast az dozdi keshidand, omorateshon faghat az tarighe in migzasht ke jangi mishod o ina ghana'eme jangi mibordand,zamaani ke jang nabod inha goshne mimondand vali aya dobareh dast be dozdi zadand ? khodai ke migeh man roozi resonam, pas miresoone. khodav vaghty khaaleghe bashare va ensaan ro khalgh karde va hameye ensaanha man va to be vojodesh ghassam khordim o shahadat dadim, az ma khaste tahte har sharayeti dorost zendegi konim, Pyambar zanesh az gorosnegi mord, vali aya az farmaane khoda sar pichi kard o kaari zede onchizi ke khoda gofte bod anjam dad ? ensaan hamishe mitoone nafse khodesho contorol kone, va harki begeh nemitonam dorogh mige, khoda in ghodrat ro dar tak take ensaanha gozahste ke nafse khodemono contorol konim, age kesy nemikone, nemikhad ke bokone.

khoda be hame raah ro neshoon dade, va ahrchizi ro ke ehtyaj dashte bashi behet dadeh, mesle in mimoneh bekhaai az yek jadey ke por az sar balaie rad shi, vali midoni onvare sar balai maghsade o behtarin chizhaye momkene, to mitooni on raahe sar balai ro beri, mitooni begi na mikham az vasate jangal beram, kesy hichvaght stoopet nemikone chon khoda be tamame ensaan ha free will ro dade, vali vaghty az on jangal ham rafty nabayad tavagho dashte bashi ke az maghsad sar dar biari.

omidvaram toneste basham manzoramo beresonam

darvish

bahse mowlavi ham hekaayat ziaad dare.... na eshtiaaghi be sherkat dar bahs hast na hoseleye baaghi moonde vali khode molavi az hame ghashang tar migeh...

Harkasi az zanne khod shod yaare man
kas nashod agah ze roozo haale man

Man be har jamiati naalaan shodam
jofte bad haalaano khoshhalaan shodam

......

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