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**darvish** · 13-06-07, 12:17

lozoome din asan chie? kheili jalebe vase man maha darim din entekhab mikonim vase khodemon bar asaase esme din ha! Zartosht kojaash peyghambar boode? in darivariaa az koja oumade? Zartosht ye philosopher e bozorgi boode ke harfaaye fogholaade amighi zade. Chejoori mitoonid tahammol konid ke zartosht ba yeseri adame bisavad (peighambar haaye adiyaane kasif) moghayese beshe? Mamadi oumade ye mozakhrafi dar morede zartosht gofte chon avvalan mikhaaste zartosht o bebare zire soal, dovvoman mahboobiat peida kone beyne irania.

Tosie mikonam "Thus Spoke Zarathustra" maale Nietzche ro bekhoonid, yebar na 10 bar bekhoonid bebinid che karde tafakkoraate in adam vaase shekl dadane ye masterpiece tavassote ye naabegheye ke hanooz kaamel shenakhte nashodast. Oonvaght in adamo miaarid dar hadde mamad o isaa o adamaaye ke 100 man yeghaaaz na arzeshe motale`eh daran va na omghi bishtar az ye bande angosht ke hanooz too ankaro monkaare inke ba kodoom angosht foroo konan too magh`adeshoon moondan???

@Filip, dar morede zendegie shakhsie zartosht daanesteh kheili mahdoode, vali dar morede tafakkoraate amighesh resource ziaade.

Kholaase vase oon daste az ham mihanaaye ke zartoshti ro ye din midoonan va zartosht ro peighambar kheili motoassefam, chon ba daste khodemoon ye filsoofe bozorg ro darim miarim dar hadde adamaaye nayarz. Tarikhe ma khaatereye khoobi az oonkasaaye ke zartoshtiat ro behesh taghaddose kaazeb dadan nadare. Za`fe dastgaah haaye hokoomati hame tahte tasire kesafat kaarihaaye mobadaane zartoshti bood.

**darvish** · 13-06-07, 12:19

@aryashahin

Az shoma ham khahesh mikonam agar ettelaa`ate kaamel az ye figure ke ye mellat mitoone besh eftekhar kone nadari, thread e challenge nazan, intori dari mostaghim khadshe be in tafakkor vaared mikoni. Islam va adyaane amsalahom inghadr mozhek hastan ke thread zadan vasashoon namake Political section mishe, vali andisheye por baare zartosht chize khandedaari nadare ke bekhaad vasash thread zade beshe.

aryana1971 · 13-06-07, 15:31

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	Originally posted by darvish lozoome din asan chie? kheili jalebe vase man maha darim din entekhab mikonim vase khodemon bar asaase esme din ha! Zartosht kojaash peyghambar boode? in darivariaa az koja oumade? Zartosht ye philosopher e bozorgi boode ke harfaaye fogholaade amighi zade. Chejoori mitoonid tahammol konid ke zartosht ba yeseri adame bisavad (peighambar haaye adiyaane kasif) moghayese beshe? Mamadi oumade ye mozakhrafi dar morede zartosht gofte chon avvalan mikhaaste zartosht o bebare zire soal, dovvoman mahboobiat peida kone beyne irania. Tosie mikonam "Thus Spoke Zarathustra" maale Nietzche ro bekhoonid, yebar na 10 bar bekhoonid bebinid che karde tafakkoraate in adam vaase shekl dadane ye masterpiece tavassote ye naabegheye ke hanooz kaamel shenakhte nashodast. Oonvaght in adamo miaarid dar hadde mamad o isaa o adamaaye ke 100 man yeghaaaz na arzeshe motale`eh daran va na omghi bishtar az ye bande angosht ke hanooz too ankaro monkaare inke ba kodoom angosht foroo konan too magh`adeshoon moondan??? .

Jenabe Darvish,
bah bah,
gol gofti , in ketab ke migid mishe az jayi downloadesh kard?

@ Filip ,
biya dige hala harf goosh kon, dobare poshte sare zartosht harf nazan.
boro "Thus Spoke Zarathustra" maale Nietzche ro bekhun baad biya bare man ham ta'rif kon.

**darvish** · 13-06-07, 15:34

shoma agar iran tashrif darid mitoonid tarjomeh be farsish ro tahie konid tahte onvaane: "Chenin goft zartosht", 1-2 nafari tarjome kardan vali maake dr masoud -e ansaari ro tosie mikonam. Motoassefaneh az rooye noskheye english tarjome shode, na az rooye noskheye almaani (asli), vali hanooz ghabele dark hast.

aryana1971 · 13-06-07, 15:38

mamnoon

hkoorosh · 13-06-07, 15:57

In gofte guye bandeh baa yek marde kheradmande zartoshtist

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	Hi Koorosh! In my opinion, Zoroastrianism is both, a philosophy and a religion. You can choose the way you want to follow and how. Zarathushtra�s prophethood cannot be interpreted under the Abrahamic point of view, but under an Indoaryan point of view. The word itself "Prophet" (Pro-Phanos = speak-forth) is not accurate but the closest found by western society to describe the semitic word "Nabi", common in Hebrew and Arabic language. Zarathustra is "Peyghambar" (Prophet) because he did bring a Religion. But his religion is different. Is a Unique monotheism, that cannot be applied or understood properly by other monotheisms. For example, In the 3 main Abrahamic religions (Perhaps 4 counting baha�is) its not accepted that you pray to Water as it is part of the Wise One. Fire is also a part of the Wise one, but we are accused of being Fire worshipers. Talking about miracles, I don�t need to ask Zarathustra to produce Miracles, when we can produce our miracles. We are part of that Unity. By the way, we understand that miracles are not actions against the Universal Laws (Asha). They are part of them, just we do not understand with the technology we have, but certainly we will. Ahura Mazda never brakes his own laws. Feel free to post your opinions to this post. Cheers! Happiness to you all!

It's absolutely fascinating to see the difference between a zoroastrian's and a muslim's way of thinking. It's not even "just" to make any comparison.

Hamuntor ke goftam va Darvish ham rush dasti gozaasht, goftehaaye zartosht faraa daadeh haaye dinist... cheh heyf ke shoste shuye maghzi daadeh shode and mardome khaabe Iran zamin

Filip.S. · 13-06-07, 18:56

Thus Spoke Zarathustra - Audio Book

WRITTEN BY:
Friedrich Nietzsche

NARRATED BY:
Michael Scott

Format: MP3

Thus Spoke Zarathustra is a 19th century literary masterpiece and key philosophical work by Nietzsche. Zarathustra descends from his cave in the mountains after ten years of solitude, brimming with wisdom and love and wants to teach humanity.

The individual lessons and sermons delivered by Zarathustra cover most of the general themes of Nietzsche�s mature philosophy, though often in highly symbolic and obscure form.

MP3 Download link

Text format

PDF format

aryashahin · 13-06-07, 19:16

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	Originally posted by Filip.S. Thus Spoke Zarathustra - Audio Book WRITTEN BY: Friedrich Nietzsche NARRATED BY: Michael Scott Format: MP3 Thus Spoke Zarathustra is a 19th century literary masterpiece and key philosophical work by Nietzsche. Zarathustra descends from his cave in the mountains after ten years of solitude, brimming with wisdom and love and wants to teach humanity. The individual lessons and sermons delivered by Zarathustra cover most of the general themes of Nietzsche�s mature philosophy, though often in highly symbolic and obscure form. MP3 Download link Text format PDF format

excellent post

Filip.S. · 13-06-07, 19:24

Darvish as an Atheist what is your stand point about Zartosh and his believe of a creator/God? do you pick and chose what you like and dislike?

Many Philosophers have spoken of reason and logic without the need of God and creator, but Zartosh did not look at world in a absolute reasonable and logical view but from stand that indeed there is a hell and heaven and a God.

So how does this fit in your Atheist believes?

GoleSorkh878 · 07-10-07, 21:24

kheili jalebe..

in soal vasam pish omade ke agar zartosht mesle Mani bod, chera inghadr javdan shod?

Mani ro shayad nashnasid.. ama yek naghashe kheili khobi bod... ke ba naghashihash va tarze fekresh ye edei ro be samte khodesh jam kard va be 100 ta 200 nafar ham resid va khodesho payam bar ghalamdad kard.. vali chon haghighi nabod va az tarafe khoda nabod be chand sal nakeshid va az ham pashid va hichi az ou va peyrovanesh baghi namond...

ama zartoush.. bade in hame sall hanooz peyrovanesh to jahan hastand.. shayad kheili kam ama bade in hame sall kheili ham azime..

vaghean bayad aval be ghodrate khoda va eteghad be vojoode on peybord..

bad fekr kard ke chera kheili ha mesle Mani az ham pashidando kheili ha mesle zartousht hanoz baghi hastand...

13-06-07, 12:17	#51 (permalink)
darvish Founder Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: United States of America Posts: 3,800 Credits: 480,675 Thanks: 1,384 Thanked 1,294 Times in 516 Posts	lozoome din asan chie? kheili jalebe vase man maha darim din entekhab mikonim vase khodemon bar asaase esme din ha! Zartosht kojaash peyghambar boode? in darivariaa az koja oumade? Zartosht ye philosopher e bozorgi boode ke harfaaye fogholaade amighi zade. Chejoori mitoonid tahammol konid ke zartosht ba yeseri adame bisavad (peighambar haaye adiyaane kasif) moghayese beshe? Mamadi oumade ye mozakhrafi dar morede zartosht gofte chon avvalan mikhaaste zartosht o bebare zire soal, dovvoman mahboobiat peida kone beyne irania. Tosie mikonam "Thus Spoke Zarathustra" maale Nietzche ro bekhoonid, yebar na 10 bar bekhoonid bebinid che karde tafakkoraate in adam vaase shekl dadane ye masterpiece tavassote ye naabegheye ke hanooz kaamel shenakhte nashodast. Oonvaght in adamo miaarid dar hadde mamad o isaa o adamaaye ke 100 man yeghaaaz na arzeshe motale`eh daran va na omghi bishtar az ye bande angosht ke hanooz too ankaro monkaare inke ba kodoom angosht foroo konan too magh`adeshoon moondan??? @Filip, dar morede zendegie shakhsie zartosht daanesteh kheili mahdoode, vali dar morede tafakkoraate amighesh resource ziaade. Kholaase vase oon daste az ham mihanaaye ke zartoshti ro ye din midoonan va zartosht ro peighambar kheili motoassefam, chon ba daste khodemoon ye filsoofe bozorg ro darim miarim dar hadde adamaaye nayarz. Tarikhe ma khaatereye khoobi az oonkasaaye ke zartoshtiat ro behesh taghaddose kaazeb dadan nadare. Za`fe dastgaah haaye hokoomati hame tahte tasire kesafat kaarihaaye mobadaane zartoshti bood. __________________ I do love my Koala

13-06-07, 12:19	#52 (permalink)
darvish Founder Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: United States of America Posts: 3,800 Credits: 480,675 Thanks: 1,384 Thanked 1,294 Times in 516 Posts	@aryashahin Az shoma ham khahesh mikonam agar ettelaa`ate kaamel az ye figure ke ye mellat mitoone besh eftekhar kone nadari, thread e challenge nazan, intori dari mostaghim khadshe be in tafakkor vaared mikoni. Islam va adyaane amsalahom inghadr mozhek hastan ke thread zadan vasashoon namake Political section mishe, vali andisheye por baare zartosht chize khandedaari nadare ke bekhaad vasash thread zade beshe. __________________ I do love my Koala

13-06-07, 15:34	#54 (permalink)
darvish Founder Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: United States of America Posts: 3,800 Credits: 480,675 Thanks: 1,384 Thanked 1,294 Times in 516 Posts	shoma agar iran tashrif darid mitoonid tarjomeh be farsish ro tahie konid tahte onvaane: "Chenin goft zartosht", 1-2 nafari tarjome kardan vali maake dr masoud -e ansaari ro tosie mikonam. Motoassefaneh az rooye noskheye english tarjome shode, na az rooye noskheye almaani (asli), vali hanooz ghabele dark hast. __________________ I do love my Koala

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aryana1971 Forum God Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: zaheran USA batenan IRAN Posts: 2,897 Credits: 10,953 Thanks: 755 Thanked 1,041 Times in 460 Posts	mamnoon __________________ darigh ast Iran ke ingoone Viran shavad

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Filip.S. Viking Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 578 Credits: 2,212 Thanks: 2 Thanked 56 Times in 38 Posts	Thus Spoke Zarathustra - Audio Book WRITTEN BY: Friedrich Nietzsche NARRATED BY: Michael Scott Format: MP3 Thus Spoke Zarathustra is a 19th century literary masterpiece and key philosophical work by Nietzsche. Zarathustra descends from his cave in the mountains after ten years of solitude, brimming with wisdom and love and wants to teach humanity. The individual lessons and sermons delivered by Zarathustra cover most of the general themes of Nietzsche�s mature philosophy, though often in highly symbolic and obscure form. MP3 Download link Text format PDF format __________________ "Islam is insult to Christianity, Christianity is insult to Judaism, Judaism is insult to humanity"

13-06-07, 19:24	#59 (permalink)
Filip.S. Viking Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 578 Credits: 2,212 Thanks: 2 Thanked 56 Times in 38 Posts	Darvish as an Atheist what is your stand point about Zartosh and his believe of a creator/God? do you pick and chose what you like and dislike? Many Philosophers have spoken of reason and logic without the need of God and creator, but Zartosh did not look at world in a absolute reasonable and logical view but from stand that indeed there is a hell and heaven and a God. So how does this fit in your Atheist believes? __________________ "Islam is insult to Christianity, Christianity is insult to Judaism, Judaism is insult to humanity"

07-10-07, 21:24	#60 (permalink)
GoleSorkh878 Triple Ace Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 225 Credits: 595 Thanks: 34 Thanked 11 Times in 9 Posts	kheili jalebe.. in soal vasam pish omade ke agar zartosht mesle Mani bod, chera inghadr javdan shod? Mani ro shayad nashnasid.. ama yek naghashe kheili khobi bod... ke ba naghashihash va tarze fekresh ye edei ro be samte khodesh jam kard va be 100 ta 200 nafar ham resid va khodesho payam bar ghalamdad kard.. vali chon haghighi nabod va az tarafe khoda nabod be chand sal nakeshid va az ham pashid va hichi az ou va peyrovanesh baghi namond... ama zartoush.. bade in hame sall hanooz peyrovanesh to jahan hastand.. shayad kheili kam ama bade in hame sall kheili ham azime.. vaghean bayad aval be ghodrate khoda va eteghad be vojoode on peybord.. bad fekr kard ke chera kheili ha mesle Mani az ham pashidando kheili ha mesle zartousht hanoz baghi hastand...