*** Ask About ZOROASTRIANISM ***

aryashahin · 27-05-07, 09:52

in respont to soushi Thread i have decided to post my own thread titled
*** Ask About ZOROASTRIANISM ***Islam and arabs dont belong to either here nor iran.
*** Ask About ZOROASTRIANISM ***

Quotation:
bullet "Zoroastrianism is the oldest of the revealed world-religions, and it has probably had more influence on mankind, directly and indirectly, than any other single faith." Mary Boyce.

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Introduction:

Zoroastrianism is a small religion with about 140,000 members. Yet its importance to humanity is much greater than its current numbers might suggest, because:
bullet Their theology has had a great impact on Judaism, Christianity and other later religions, in the beliefs surrounding God and Satan, the soul, heaven and hell, savior, resurrection, final judgment, etc.
bullet It is one of the oldest religions still in existence,
bullet It may have been the first monotheistic religion.

The religion was founded by Zarathushtra (Zoroaster in Greek; Zarthosht in India and Persia). Conservative Zoroastrians assign a date of 6000 BCE to the founding of the religion; other followers estimate 600 BCE. Historians and religious scholars generally date his life sometime between 1500 and 1000 BCE on the basis of his style of writing.

He lived in Persia, modern day Iran. Legends say that his birth was predicted and that attempts were made by the forces of evil to kill him as a child. He preached a monotheism in a land which followed an aboriginal polytheistic religion. He was attacked for his teaching, but finally won the support of the king. Zoroastrianism became the state religion of various Persian empires, until the 7th Century CE.

When Muslim Arabs invaded Persia in 650 CE, a small number of Zoroastrians fled to India where most are concentrated today. Those who remained behind have survived centuries of persecution, systematic slaughter, forced conversion, heavy taxes, etc. They now number only about 18,000 and reside chiefly in Yazd, Kernan and Tehran in what is now Iran. The 1991 census counted 3,190 Zoroastrians in Canada. The actual number is believed to be much higher.

hkoorosh · 27-05-07, 15:07

If Iranians are looking for a way of living this is it.

Goftehaaye zartosht besyaar zibaa o Irani-manesh hastan chon ke u khod zaadeye hamin aabo khaak bud.

hezaaran saal az ghoraan o bible o inhaa ghadimi tar vali charandiaate besyaar kamtar. be raasti heyfe aadam baa daaraayie khodesh inkaar ro bokoneh

an agar paareh pirhani az pedar bozorgam behem bereseh ba 1000 taa piraaneh shike bigaaneh avaz nemikonam

Filip.S. · 28-05-07, 10:19

How can you proof that Zartosh is not same as any other prophet? FAKE?

aryana1971 · 28-05-07, 14:32

merci aryashahin
manam ba nazare shoma va koorosh kamelan movafegham.
ye negahe kootah be zartoshtiyan (ahaliye yazd khosusan) neshun mide ke dine zartoshti kheyli salem tar az adyane digast, na kosht o koshtar tush dare va na pedarsookhtegi.
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aryashahin · 28-05-07, 21:15

	Quote:
	Originally posted by Filip.S. How can you proof that Zartosh is not same as any other prophet? FAKE?

I tell you why, its not fake......
Have you seen violence?!!!!
Rape?!!!
Force conversions?!!!!
mass murders in the name of Allah?!!! or what ever you call it..
have you ever seen 9 years old legally can marry a 45 years old?!!!

Have you ever read that Ahura , being unjust?!!!
Why As a Persian WE are so found of Islam . As it is a religion of violence .
Why do we have to accept a religion which was forced upon us.
Why we have to accept Arab religion when we have our glorious religon, which does not force or murders.

Filip.S. · 28-05-07, 22:36

Quote:

Originally posted by aryashahin

	Quote:
	Originally posted by Filip.S. How can you proof that Zartosh is not same as any other prophet? FAKE?

I tell you why, its not fake......
Have you seen violence?!!!!
Rape?!!!
Force conversions?!!!!
mass murders in the name of Allah?!!! or what ever you call it..
have you ever seen 9 years old legally can marry a 45 years old?!!!

Have you ever read that Ahura , being unjust?!!!
Why As a Persian WE are so found of Islam . As it is a religion of violence .
Why do we have to accept a religion which was forced upon us.
Why we have to accept Arab religion when we have our glorious religon, which does not force or murders.

now you sound like soushi, do you have any proves that murder and unjust didn't happened 3000 years ago? According to history majority of historical document got burned down. Anyway a peaceful conduct by some religious group is not the sign of its truth. Mormons haven't committed any crime so can we comfortably say they are the true religion? Try to conduct your religious and political debate with your brain and not your heart and love for a cause (in this case Iran) otherwise you are no different than Soushi same fanatical ideology just different religion. If you deny the Allah - Elohim - Jushua you must also deny Ahura.

Look closely at your own one way view of Zartosh and you may understand why Soushi protects Islam, even if is far from logic.

Filip.S. · 28-05-07, 22:43

aryashahin I hope you don't start calling me a "parasite" now. But Some Iranians are real bigots. They say Islam is fake, they don't believe in Jesus AS THEIR SAVIOR and don't accept Torah as their belief system. They are not Muslim, Christians neither a Jew. They say Allah is a moron and Elohim is man made. However they say Zartosh is Gods prophet and Ahura is real and everyone else is an idiot. Doesn't it sound just like a Muslim?

aryashahin · 28-05-07, 23:32

	Quote:
	Originally posted by Filip.S. aryashahin I hope you don't start calling me a "parasite" now. But Some Iranians are real bigots. They say Islam is fake, they don't believe in Jesus AS THEIR SAVIOR and don't accept Torah as their belief system. They are not Muslim, Christians neither a Jew. They say Allah is a moron and Elohim is man made. However they say Zartosh is Gods prophet and Ahura is real and everyone else is an idiot. Doesn't it sound just like a Muslim?

I NEVER HAD ANYONE SAYING THAT .. interesting though.. i dont say islam is fake, nor is other religons.
i believe islam does not have a place in iran.
it was islam that has ruin iran from inside/
dont youthink , or maybe is it that people miss used it?!!!

alirezasepy · 30-05-07, 03:06

good info, worth reading it.

Thanks

HamPyale · 31-05-07, 03:44

so'ale man az shoma, Nabovate Zartosht ro chejoory sabet mikoni ?? Sabet kon ke Zartosht P.B.U.H Payambar bode.

27-05-07, 09:52	#1 (permalink)
aryashahin Lord Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 268 Credits: 1,817 Thanks: 4 Thanked 10 Times in 6 Posts	* Ask About ZOROASTRIANISM * in respont to soushi Thread i have decided to post my own thread titled * Ask About ZOROASTRIANISM Islam and arabs dont belong to either here nor iran. Ask About ZOROASTRIANISM * Quotation: bullet "Zoroastrianism is the oldest of the revealed world-religions, and it has probably had more influence on mankind, directly and indirectly, than any other single faith." Mary Boyce. horizontal rule Introduction: Zoroastrianism is a small religion with about 140,000 members. Yet its importance to humanity is much greater than its current numbers might suggest, because: bullet Their theology has had a great impact on Judaism, Christianity and other later religions, in the beliefs surrounding God and Satan, the soul, heaven and hell, savior, resurrection, final judgment, etc. bullet It is one of the oldest religions still in existence, bullet It may have been the first monotheistic religion. The religion was founded by Zarathushtra (Zoroaster in Greek; Zarthosht in India and Persia). Conservative Zoroastrians assign a date of 6000 BCE to the founding of the religion; other followers estimate 600 BCE. Historians and religious scholars generally date his life sometime between 1500 and 1000 BCE on the basis of his style of writing. He lived in Persia, modern day Iran. Legends say that his birth was predicted and that attempts were made by the forces of evil to kill him as a child. He preached a monotheism in a land which followed an aboriginal polytheistic religion. He was attacked for his teaching, but finally won the support of the king. Zoroastrianism became the state religion of various Persian empires, until the 7th Century CE. When Muslim Arabs invaded Persia in 650 CE, a small number of Zoroastrians fled to India where most are concentrated today. Those who remained behind have survived centuries of persecution, systematic slaughter, forced conversion, heavy taxes, etc. They now number only about 18,000 and reside chiefly in Yazd, Kernan and Tehran in what is now Iran. The 1991 census counted 3,190 Zoroastrians in Canada. The actual number is believed to be much higher.

28-05-07, 10:19	#3 (permalink)
Filip.S. Viking Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 578 Credits: 2,212 Thanks: 2 Thanked 56 Times in 38 Posts	How can you proof that Zartosh is not same as any other prophet? FAKE? __________________ "Islam is insult to Christianity, Christianity is insult to Judaism, Judaism is insult to humanity"

28-05-07, 14:32	#4 (permalink)
aryana1971 Forum God Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: zaheran USA batenan IRAN Posts: 2,900 Credits: 10,960 Thanks: 756 Thanked 1,041 Times in 460 Posts	RE: * Ask About ZOROASTRIANISM * merci aryashahin manam ba nazare shoma va koorosh kamelan movafegham. ye negahe kootah be zartoshtiyan (ahaliye yazd khosusan) neshun mide ke dine zartoshti kheyli salem tar az adyane digast, na kosht o koshtar tush dare va na pedarsookhtegi. ! __________________ darigh ast Iran ke ingoone Viran shavad

28-05-07, 22:43	#7 (permalink)
Filip.S. Viking Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 578 Credits: 2,212 Thanks: 2 Thanked 56 Times in 38 Posts	aryashahin I hope you don't start calling me a "parasite" now. But Some Iranians are real bigots. They say Islam is fake, they don't believe in Jesus AS THEIR SAVIOR and don't accept Torah as their belief system. They are not Muslim, Christians neither a Jew. They say Allah is a moron and Elohim is man made. However they say Zartosh is Gods prophet and Ahura is real and everyone else is an idiot. Doesn't it sound just like a Muslim? __________________ "Islam is insult to Christianity, Christianity is insult to Judaism, Judaism is insult to humanity"

30-05-07, 03:06	#9 (permalink)
alirezasepy Viking Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: doraz Iran Posts: 580 Credits: 1,722 Thanks: 39 Thanked 89 Times in 51 Posts	RE: * Ask About ZOROASTRIANISM * good info, worth reading it. Thanks

27-05-07, 15:07	#2 (permalink)
hkoorosh Lord Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 455 Credits: 1,099 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	If Iranians are looking for a way of living this is it. Goftehaaye zartosht besyaar zibaa o Irani-manesh hastan chon ke u khod zaadeye hamin aabo khaak bud. hezaaran saal az ghoraan o bible o inhaa ghadimi tar vali charandiaate besyaar kamtar. be raasti heyfe aadam baa daaraayie khodesh inkaar ro bokoneh an agar paareh pirhani az pedar bozorgam behem bereseh ba 1000 taa piraaneh shike bigaaneh avaz nemikonam

31-05-07, 03:44	#10 (permalink)
HamPyale Lord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 433 Credits: 1,372 Thanks: 2 Thanked 12 Times in 7 Posts	so'ale man az shoma, Nabovate Zartosht ro chejoory sabet mikoni ?? Sabet kon ke Zartosht P.B.U.H Payambar bode.