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Old 12-06-08, 18:27   #1 (permalink)
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How did everything start?

I have this question, where did god come from?
Im a atheist, so im trying to understand the situation here....
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Old 05-07-08, 15:02   #2 (permalink)
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As a child you look at your dad and you think he is the greatest man ever. When you grownup you see that he is not perfect yet you still want a more powerful being to be there so it can help you, guide you and protect you. Looking back into history of men you see that even cave men had this urge to create/imagine some sort of God.

God is created solely because human intelligent has not reached a point to grasp the idea that we are not different but part of the animal and natural kingdom. Thru out the history men has also discovered that a King dies and has limited power yet God has unlimited power what a great way of creating the ultimate King or ruler that can be used to control the majority.
When Gods where created the ordinary men wasn't able to communicate to him so he needed Prophets, High Priest and handful Chosen ones.

God is solely a creation of human mind and the need of some sort of leader. Humans while capable to make individual decisions are in need of a collective social structure.

With time God has become the greatest commodity is men hand. With God he has the full control over others mind. A religious person may give 1 dollar to a poor men but when ask he is more than willing to give 100 in to the pocket of Priest, Imam, Bishop in return for a place in heaven.

I am certain that in far future men will look at our time and ridicule today’s human because of their believe in Allah, Elohim, Yahweh as we look back into the Greeks/Mayan/Egyptians Gods and ridicule it.
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Old 25-09-08, 07:00   #3 (permalink)
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I am certain that in far future men will look at our time and ridicule today’s human because of their believe in Allah, Elohim, Yahweh as we look back into the Greeks/Mayan/Egyptians Gods and ridicule it.
DO you think so?? I completly don't agree with you.. If you raise your offsprings in a sound education of the truth, believe me no one can change them... There will be milions who still will believe in the truth ( in Allah)... The truth is always clear...

And regarding the athest , I will tell you that the origin and nature of Allah (all's God) is in the knowledge of the unseen.. OUR mind( humans) coudn't reach it .. BUT insead , we can meditate in the world , sky , earth ...etc and find that the greatness of life was not created in vein, it has a creator and for sure He is Allah...

If your mind doesn't take you to find it yourself, GO and see another time..If you need any question, ask me !
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Quote: Originally Posted by haghj00 View Post
I have this question, where did god come from?
Im a atheist, so im trying to understand the situation here....
I think sometimes its good to take a step back:

Does God have to come from somewhere ? Why ?

I say No.

What do you think ?
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Old 25-09-08, 22:36   #5 (permalink)
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I get the feeling people are talking about two subjects here; God and religion. I am certainly not talking about the latter, since I believe that subject...and belief in it, it's just plain hogwash. Now, talking about how and where we came from, that brings to mind the fact of “intelligent design”, although some people might think of that term as the God.

The universe in which our eternal selves exist was made uniquely for us. That would stand to reason. The universe is made up of three eternal elements: energy, matter and us(our eternal self). I believe in eternal self...actually I have no doubt about eternal self.

Let's look at the earth and how and why it was came to be. The Earth is just far enough from the sun so water can stay liquid, with temperatures such that human beings can live, and a size sufficient to have an atmosphere. The Earth is set up remarkably precisely to provide the water and oxygen the planet needs to support life. Another indication that the Earth has been set up specifically for us is that evolution doesn’t explain the emergence of life from chemicals.

The same kinds of remarkable engineering are present in galaxies. For human beings to be able to live in a particular galaxy, it would have to have exactly the right mass. That fact is explained by the authors of the book: “the privileged planet, how our place in the cosmos is designed for discovery.” All of that is engineered with such precision that it would be impossible for it to occur by chance as a result of a “Big Bang”, as Darwinist suggest. To believe in the “big bang” theory, is just like expecting to get a dictionary out of an explosion in a printing shop. Its “intelligent design” my friend. Now this concept doesn’t suggest a God of course---in my mind, especially the God envisioned as a big old man in the sky. It simply means that some intelligent organization seems to be necessary for the universe to exist as it does to support human beings.
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