Filip.S.

There is nothing in religion and God that does deserve any more or less respect. If I start a threat and bashing President Bush or Ahmadinejad I will not hear anyone saying I am disrespecting them they may start a debate but that will not cause me to be hanged.

Same goes for religion if I believe that Muhammad was a child molester (clearly known that he had a wife that was 9 years old) this is my right you don't like it don't read it or defend it and tell me why I am wrong. But don't bully me this is free forum and free mean exchange of ideas even if is not in your favor.

And at last this Muslim idea of respect is BULSHIT. A Muslim has the right to destroy Bahai grave yard, is allowed to burn down Christian church and hang atheist but no one ios allowed to critizice ISLAM.

For this people I have only one word GFUS

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<Daleader>

haha in Dawkins ro khoda begam che kar nakoneee

Dawkins is speaking only as a scientest not a human NOR a philosopher! So as a Scientest he required to REPORT what he have found BASED On his EXPERIMENT and reasearch and therefore HE OR SHE cannot lie! BUT as he said science does not provide a solid DEFENIT answer to everything but tried to FIND a SOUND and plausible ANSWER! SO a muslim as a scientest is required to go against his belief since there are many things that religion does not provide. He is trying to find a "physical" god ! Ofcourse he cannot find it since he doesnt know what god is! The only person who came close to knowing what god is and was is Nitezsche! God is an emotion, a feeling a thing that makes us to things!!!! Do we need to have proof that god exist in order for it to exist! NO and OFCOURSE NOT!!! God exist as a non-physical "entity" in our mind! Isn;t that enough for it to exist!~ It not than what does existence mean? I am a physical being now but in million years MY physical exitence does not exist, NOW does that mean I do not exist?
Maybe god existed and no more! He died! Look Richard does not know what he wants to say! He is trying to provide a rational answer to an IRRATIOANl thing/being! Human are irrational and THERE is no way we can use rational means to convince them! Man he is to stupid that he goes not EVEN know where morality comes from! Morality is commonsense! It depends how u are raised and after a certain age ONCE Again emotion and experince tells u whether a certain action are moral or not~! THERE any three things that requires no religion or CENSUS in order that you realize it is immoral not to do so. They are someones death, sex and love! U dont need a religion to experince thus! If u see someone is dieing in front of you, a compelete stragner that is and also at that moment you are free of any emotinal attachement like fight or angar or.... commonsense tells us if we can HELP them! U dont think when someneeds help that what HAVE god SAID or so and so in so and so census have said that what we do! It is commonsense! I normal human been who is does not have and nuerological damage and someone who is not emotionally "challenge" would TRY to help who ever needs help! The have failed to know what commonsense is?

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Filip.S.

Dawkins??? So only Dawkins and me are against respecting Religion??

What values does religion have that deserve more respect then any other ideology????

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<Daleader>

hey dont argue with me I am with you guys I just proposed one way that how THE RELIGIOUS people would argue against us!

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Hassan Kachal

religion is a believe... a personal believe... (a believe is the most fundamental human right) so unless and until is doesn't hurt any one, it deserves a respect... remember respect is not a gift, you gotta earn it...

we are not talking about a religion's right or wrong... it is a believe, even a "harmless wrong believe" deserves a respect

You know better than me that your problem is not with Islam or any other religion,,, have a look at your avatar, it comes from there...
you, just like many of us is not happy with the Islamic Republic (JE), therefore you get back on Islam... (Psychology Displacement Defense Mechanism)

Why no one is concerned about Bahaeis !? because they harm no one...

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Filip.S.

At last if Muslims had brain they would be free and not a slaves of some imaginary GOD

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Hassan Kachal

i thought you understand english...

(exactly and relgion has done nothing to deserve respect specially Islam, are you suggesting we should respect muhammad the pedophile?)

i didn't say respect the religion, i said respect their believe

(know your history before you open your mouth, my Avatar is the symbole of Persian empire and not a religious or anti religious domination)

i know it better than u buddy, your symbol of persian empire has been changed recently by JE which comes from islam as a religion

gud night

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anette

I think you forgot to respect people initially by your last sentence as well as the rest of it. As you say this is free forum but why are you so angry and wanting to fight everything and everyone. It is not religion that creats monsters in people, the monsters already exist and religion only gives them a way to use in order to achieve their monstrosity. Religion is a set of beliefs which people choose based on whatever is near to how they were brought up or believed in, it is not a weapon but some people use it as a weapon, it is like a knife, you can use it to cut an apple or kill someone, in the hands of one person the same item does as the person commands and does not have a life of its own. It is also like a pen, it can write horrible insults or write the best poetry to warm the heart, it is up to the writer not the pen.

My prescription for you is take the chill pill twice a day and six doses of smile with a glass of water.

Have a nice day

Hassan Kachal

^^^ very well said girl im sure u deserve a respect whatever your religion is

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Filip.S.

Of course she desrve respect as an individual. What I am saying is that religion does not deserve any less or more than any other ideology. If you are allowed to critsize or even make fun of a political figure you have also the right to do so in regard of a prophet or religion.

A believe system is not immune from freedom of speech. If in Denmark a reporter decide to make funny cartoon of muhammad he has all the right same right when a Muslim is burning the flag of a country.

Yet Muslims have not mentaly evolved into grasping this concept. If you make fun of Jesus, Moses, Bahaullah no one will demand you to be hanged or killed but if you make fun of Muslim prophet they want you dead.

that is exactly what is my point. If I chose to redicule your belife this is my personal choice, if you feel offended you are welcome to discouss it or just let me be or aks me to stop it yet you can not demand with force me to stop it.

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