Last Breath

Salaam dustaan,

Mikhstam bedunam avvali ke negaahetun be esme in thread oftaad (ghabl az inke click konid) chi fekr kardid ?

Che ehsaasi peyda kardid ? Matlabe jaaleb ? Khandedaar ?
Ta'ajjob ? Naraahati ? Ya hatta Asabaniyat ??

Aksha kheili mohem nistan . . . Har kasi mifahme, va in dark ro dare ke har aks bayangare tarze fekr, aghide -ya hatta bardashte shakhsi az yek ideology- va marbute be khode un fard hast (harchand dar nazare ma maskhare ya khandedaar jelve bede)


Khoshal misham nazaretun ro dar in bare bedunam . . .

Edit: Is it just me or have the pictures disappeared ??!
ReUped (although might not be in correct order, apologies to Ehsan because he did comment accordingly...)

Ehsan Z.

axe avval, eshtebah nakonam ghorbani kardan az farhange eslami oomade
axe yeki moonde be akhar, ta jai ke az oon tazahorat khabar daram oonja shoare allaho akbar midadano kollan ye tazahorati boodeke az tarafe mazhabioon ejra shode
axe akhar, vezarat behdashte eslami be oon karkhoone mojavvez dade
baghie axa ham irrelevent boodan

dar morede pointe shoma ham, fek konam in taghriban sade tarin o koodakane tarin tozihie ke mishe dad, dar har soorat, melliat ro ma entekhab nemikonim, bahash be donya miaim, tohin kardan ya koochak shemordane melliat be onvane nejad-parasti ghabool mishe, vali ideology ya har dine be khosoosio afrad khodeshoon baraye khodeshoon entekhab mikonan (hadeaghal oonai ke yekam aghl daran, oonai ham ke nadaran vasashoon entekhab mikonan), hala yeki momkene bege man be malakhe baaldar iman daram, yeki gaave sefid, yekiam be emame namar'ii o bakerehaye beheshti
maskhare kardan ya ahmaghane shemordane injoor tarze fekra ya ideology ha ba eraa'e dalayele manteghi yechize kheili normali hast

ehteram ghael shodan be adam ha, melliatha, nejad ha ye chize dige o bahs kardan dar morede tarze fekr-ha yechize dige

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Last Breath

Mamnun az javaabetun.

1- Hamuntor ke goftam aksha kheili mohem nistan, leza darbarshun dune dune bahsi nemikonam. Dobare migam : "...Har kasi mifahme, va in dark ro dare ke har aks bayangare tarze fekr, aghide -ya hatta bardashte shakhsi az yek ideology- va marbute be khode un fard hast"

2- Doroste ke bi ehteraami be Nejad ba bi ehteraami be ideology, farghhay daran. Monkere in nistam, va ghabul daram. Va ettefaaghan mikhastam be hamin mas'ale eshaare konam. Bi ehteraami dar hardo shun hast ! Vali fargh dare vaghti ke shoma be Nejaad bi ehteraami koni ya be chizi ke beghole khodetun "...afrad khodeshoon baraye khodeshoon entekhab mikonan..."
Vaghti ke khodesh entekhab karde barash ahammiyate bishtari dare va mohemtare. Che basaa afradi bashan ke be melliyateshun fohsh bedi chizi nemigan vali be aghidashun kheili hassaas hastan !
E'teghaad mohemtar va por ahammiyat tar az nejaad hast.

3- "...maskhare kardan ya ahmaghane shemordane injoor tarze fekra ya ideology ha ba eraa'e dalayele manteghi yechize kheili normali hast"
Agar man budam Baa vojude in, hichvaght maskhare nemikardam, ya unharo ahmagh hesaab nemikardam.
E'teghaade khodesh hast, shoma/man ke ba mantegh raddesh kardim baraye maa maskharas vali baraye un hanuz mohemme.
Amma chon ziyaad pish miyad (too Religious Section ke nadidim), umuman morede ghabul shode. DAR IN SURAT baaz ham moshkeli nabud.

4- Baa Eraa'eye mantegh ! Mantegh yani gozashtane aks va "no comment" ???
Kodum mantegh ??!

5- Un chizi ke inja morede bahs hast ine ke man umadam yek Goruhi ro be surate Kolli maskhare/tohin kardam. In doroste ?

6- Vali nashodaa , Hanuz javabe soal ro nadadid, Aya naraahat mishid az titre Thread ya na ?

boback

The only thing I can say is: " YOU CAN NOT JUDGE PEOPLE" but do you want us to ignore what we see?

Last Breath

Exactly !

Specially when the judgement is aimed at a wide range of people with different perceptions and ideologies !

I didnt completely understand what you meant by the second part, but I can say for certain that no one is asking to ignore an issue, rather see it as it really is. By "not judging" (as you pointed out) and not offending a vast group of people.

Like I said in the last post, there might be times when we ridicule people after a matter is tackled logically and analyzed => -eventhough STILL unacceptable- this may be justified only by disregarding the persons feelings, beliefs, dignity, etc. (needs either a Cold Heart or an ignorant and mislead person, mostly the latter)
But unfortunately that has not been the case . . .

Ehsan Z.

@Last Breath

axe honari bale, vali axi ke ayane dige che hajat be bardasht e mokhtalef kardan azash..

Dinhaye mokhtalef az jomle eslam, be andazeye kaafi be bi-din ha ya kasayi ke dinhaye dige dashtan bi ehterami karde ke haddo hesab nadare, ke albatte faghat ba bi ehterami emtena nakardan

in be kheili chiza bastegi dare, vaghti ye "Gorooh" eddea haye ziadi mikonan ke esbatesham faghat "bemir ta motevajjeh beshi" hast, vaghti in "Gorooh" bana be bavarhaye khodeshoon too zendegie baghie be har nahvi dekhalat mikonan, vaghti in "Gorooh" bavar haye khodeshoon ro tabligh mikonan, "gorooh" haye dige ham mian o roo in tarze fekr bahs mikonan chon in dige too in sharayet in masale az ye bavare khosoosi kharej mishe

ehsas mikonam ye meghdar tond neveshtam, shoma az kamkhaabie bande begirin, dar zemn chat room ke nist forume, yekam sabr dashte bash

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Last Breath

@Ehsan Z.
Motevajjeh nashodam, vali manzure man ashkhaase tuye aks hastan.
Yani unhay ke akseshun ro mibinim, kaari ke mikonan marbute be khodeshun hast (hala un kaar mitune marbute be tarze bardasht az yek ideology bashe).

Shoma gofte budid

morede (2) ke az man quote kardin dar moghabele in harfetun bud. Marbute be mas'aleye bi ehterami be har goruhi hast va az tarafe har kasi => ke dorost migid morede ghabul nist.
Mikham ye mozu roshan beshe; (Mesaal ro ba eslaam bezanim)
Shoma az koja baratun in bi ehteraami saabet shode ? az Dine Eslaam ya Az Ba'zi Mosalmunha ?
Agar az bazi mosalmunha hast, ke nabayad be din bezanid, chon Hameye mosalmuna ke intori nistan ! Mosalmunha mesle TAMAAME aghshaar khubo bad daran.

Agar az dine eslaam hast (yani Qur'an va Hadishaye Movassagh) shoma hagh darid. Faghat agar intor hast, omidvaram betunid mavaaredesh ro biyarid ta mane mosalmun bedunam daram az che maslaki peyravi mikonam ! Ke agar chenin chizi bashe man Second Thoughts dashte basham. Amma BA SANAD.

(baa vojude hameye inha farz mikonim shoma dorost migi)
dar in surat, Yani mahaale ke "dinhaye mokhtalef az jomle eslam" ba mantegh ehaanat bokonan ? agar ba mantegh bashe, khodetun goftid ke shoma bahash moshkeli nadarid !


Chi be kheili chiza bastegi dare ? maskhare kardan ?

1- In goruhi ro ke migid, eddeahashun be khodesh va tarafdaarhash marbute. Akhe az koja migid ke "...esbatesham faghat "bemir ta motevajjeh beshi" hast" ??? Kutah begam: Na faghat in nist !

2- Dekhaalat tu zendegiye baghiye ???! Oonam "Be har nahvi" ???!!!
Be nazaram darid yekamaki Exaggerate mikonid.

Che dekhaalati ?? In dekhaalati ke migid, mansha'esh goftehaye Dine ? Ya khaastehaye fard ?? Agar Dine, moredesh ro biyarid !

Ino biyarid ke:
Koja tu din (eslaam -rudarvasi nadarim dige- ) gofte ke mitunid "too zendegie baghie be har nahvi dekhalat" konid ?



Nemidunam az koja ehsaas kardid ke ajale daram ?
Bale, benazaram ino fahmide basham ke threade. Chon miduni ke, az vaghti post zadam neshestam paye monitor montazere javaabetun. Alan 48 saat mishe. Aakharesham safhe ro refresh nakardam, ta javabet biyad