hayahoo baraye che ya chi?

effat27 · 29-11-08, 19:35

inhame hayahoo wa saro seda o begiro beband o teror o adamkoshi barye chi?
chera ma hatman? bayad paybande mazhab ya din bashim?
chera bayad az dastoorate ketabi peyrawi konim ke na negarande an moshakhs hast wa na mo'allef an, wa faghat chon ma shenide'im ke an ketab asemanist?
az fardi ke khodra, wa ya be gofte'i oora namayande wa ya frestadehe afarinande giti dar rooye zamin mo'arrefi nemoode, peyrawi konim?

agar tamame pishwayan ya begofteha'i peyambaran az sooye yek afarinande baraye hedayate? ensanha bargozide shodand, pas chera an afarinande dar dastooratash tanaghoz hast?

dar torat laf az ghodrat mizanad daste daste bachehaye bigonah ra mikoshad wa moratab ghorbani wa kababe gooshte boz mitalabad wa ...,
dar enjil mardom ra be solh o safa wa mehrbani dawat mikonad (wali dar tarikh mikhanim ke kelisa che bala'i bar sare mardome bigonah award),
dar ghoran khodra tawana wa agah mikhanad wa farmane ghatle ensanhara midehad ke az oo peyrawi nakonand, tahdide besoozandane ebsanha mikonad, dar aseman koorehe adamsoozi darad wa harke ra khast be anja mibarad wa ya be baaghi mozayan be takhthaye jawaherneshan, ba jooyhaye shir o assal, dooshizegane bakere (hoori) wa pesarane jawan (ghelman) da'wat mikonad. gahi framoosh mikonad wa framine khodashra naghz mikonand, ba tamae ghodrati ke ede'a darad, nemitawanad, jeloye sheytan? ke dastawarde khodash hast begirad ke adamha ra monharef nakonad, ensanha ra be barde dari wa soo'e estefadehe jensi azanha tashwigh mikonad.

chera bayad be "chizi" sajde? konim ke "oo" khodra (be goftehe digaran) ghader wa tawana midanad, wa farman be ghatl o khoonrizi , ferestadane balahaye assemani midehad, wali ghader nist goresngane efrigha ra komak konad, ya az froode bombe atom rooye sare mardome bigonah jelogiri konad?
wa kholasse inke be goftehe torat oo dar hodoode 6000sale pish jahan wa ensan ra afaride, amma danesh wa kherade ensan chize digari ra sabet karde.

afarinande'i ke khodra mosallat wa agah bar afkare makhlooghash midanad che ehtiaji darad ke inhame wasete bename peyambar o emam o molla wa ... dashte bashad?

aya hamehe in dastanhaye ajib o gharib zaide wa tarawoshate afkare khode ma ensanha nist?

Last Breath · 30-11-08, 16:19

Chera peyravi nakonim ? Paybande chize khub shodan bade ?

Agar saabet beshe ke Yek ketaabi joz haghighat chize digey nist, chera be goftehaye un del nabandim ?

Edde'ahaye kheili ziyadi kardid. "dasture be soozandan" ???! In yekio dige nashnide budim !!! Hame chi shenide budim joz in yeki !!

Bebinam, kasi ke be vatane man tajavoz kone, be ghowli Sili bezane tu suratam . . . bayad chi kar konam? Unvare suratamo neshunesh bedam, begam injaro faramush kardi?? Har adame Aagheli Defa mikone, mijange. Har ghanun va ghaa'edey dasture defa va istadegi dar barabare zolm ro mide.

Shoma faghat ghesmate dastur ro gereftid va kolli era'e dadid ??

Ketabhaye asemaniye dige ro bahsi nemikonam, vali dar bareye Qor'an un tasviri ke dar zehne kheili ha hast, ine ke Qor'an chizhay mige ke khodemun midunim. Mage man nemifahmam chi khube chi bad ?? Niyaz be ketaab nadaram ke behem bege!
Amma haghighate amr ine ke, Ensaan faramush kare! Qor'an be onvane Yaadavar va raahnama hast. In hame sokhan va da'vate be tafakkor, Aghl, gozasht, elm . . . . . Jaalebe, tuye threade "Hast ya nist?" ham bahs darim. Avvalin Aayei ke dar qor'an umade az Elm sokhan gofte. Kodum maslak ya mazhabe dige inghadr be elm, tadabbor va tafakkor ahammiyat dade ?

Dorost nist ke yek seri edde'ahaye bi asaas gofte beshe, ke hich madraki nadare.

(Hala madrake khodet ku ??) :
Kaare nik => 160 An'aam - asraa' 23
Gozasht => 199 A'raaf
Solh va samimiyat => Baghare 208
Defa dar barabare Zolm => Anfaal 60
Aghl va Andishe => Baghare 219 - An'aam 50 - Ra'd 3 - Nahl 44
Re'ayate Edaalat hatta ba doshman => Maa'ede 8
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Kheili ziyadan, felan in nemuneha dame dast budan.

effat27 · 30-11-08, 17:45

doosre aziz,

shoma e'teghad darid ke ghoran ketabe assemanist? moshkeli nist man bekhodam in ejazaro nemidam ke bekham aghidehe shomaro awaz konam.
man be aghle khodam rojo mikonam wa nemitawanam an dastanhaye (az nazare man) bi paye o assas ra ke ba mo'adelat wa osoole physiki wa teknologie gharne ma moghayerat darad bepaziram.

masalan che ehtiaji hast ke man hara'rooz 17 bar roo be makani be'istam ke sakhte daste ensan hast wa dar sarzamine bigane gharar dard, wa ba tekrare jomalati ba zabani ke be an ashena'i nadaram yeknawakht, be chizi ke anra nadide'am gowahi be wojoode an bedaham wa az oo khaheshkonam ke manra be rahe rast hedayat konad wa..., dar halike in khode man hastam wa ghalbe man, ehsase man wa zamire agah wa nakhodagahe man ke khoob ra az bad wa sahih ra az ghalat tashkhis midahad.

az hame inha gozashte man nemitawanam khodam ra razi konam ke ghawanini ra bepaziram ke ba zoore shamshir warede sarzamine ajdadie man shode!!

PersianFire · 30-11-08, 21:20

	Quote: Originally Posted by effat27
	doosre aziz, shoma e'teghad darid ke ghoran ketabe assemanist? moshkeli nist man bekhodam in ejazaro nemidam ke bekham aghidehe shomaro awaz konam. man be aghle khodam rojo mikonam wa nemitawanam an dastanhaye (az nazare man) bi paye o assas ra ke ba mo'adelat wa osoole physiki wa teknologie gharne ma moghayerat darad bepaziram. ode!! [/COLOR]

take it easy! dava dary?

Last Breath · 01-12-08, 16:58

	Quote: Originally Posted by effat27
	doosre aziz, shoma e'teghad darid ke ghoran ketabe assemanist? moshkeli nist man bekhodam in ejazaro nemidam ke bekham aghidehe shomaro awaz konam. man be aghle khodam rojo mikonam wa nemitawanam an dastanhaye (az nazare man) bi paye o assas ra ke ba mo'adelat wa osoole physiki wa teknologie gharne ma moghayerat darad bepaziram. masalan che ehtiaji hast ke man hara'rooz 17 bar roo be makani be'istam ke sakhte daste ensan hast wa dar sarzamine bigane gharar dard, wa ba tekrare jomalati ba zabani ke be an ashena'i nadaram yeknawakht, be chizi ke anra nadide'am gowahi be wojoode an bedaham wa az oo khaheshkonam ke manra be rahe rast hedayat konad wa..., dar halike in khode man hastam wa ghalbe man, ehsase man wa zamire agah wa nakhodagahe man ke khoob ra az bad wa sahih ra az ghalat tashkhis midahad. az hame inha gozashte man nemitawanam khodam ra razi konam ke ghawanini ra bepaziram ke ba zoore shamshir warede sarzamine ajdadie man shode!!

Besyar khob! Kasi nagofte ke bepazirid !

Shoma ehtiyaji nist in karha ro bokonid! Chon baraye shoma ma'ni nadare! Man ham agar jaye shoma budam nemikardam!

Vali baraye mosalmuni ke AVVAL e'teghad dare ke khoday hast. Ke un joz khubi, mehrabani, kamaal, azemat, otufat, bakhshandegi,... chize digey nist. Ke un ensan va zamin ro ba tamaame zibay hash khalgh karde. Ke un makhlughesh ro raha nemikone. Barash raahnama mizare. Ke un harchi mige bekhatere khodesh nist, balke bekhatere khalgheshe . . . Va va va va

Bale, man ham agar faghat az yek zaviye va az yek surakhe kuchik donya ro bebinam, hichi azash nemifahmam . . .

effat27 · 03-12-08, 13:19

	Quote: Originally Posted by Last Breath
	Besyar khob! Kasi nagofte ke bepazirid ! Shoma ehtiyaji nist in karha ro bokonid! Chon baraye shoma ma'ni nadare! Man ham agar jaye shoma budam nemikardam!

shoma dar haman maghta'i ke hastid bemanid!walipishnehad mikonam be wagheyatha ham bengarid!

	Quote: Originally Posted by Last Breath
	Besyar khob! Kasi nagofte ke bepazirid ! Vali baraye mosalmuni ke AVVAL e'teghad dare ke khoday hast. Ke un joz khubi, mehrabani, kamaal, azemat, otufat, bakhshandegi,... chize digey nist. Ke un ensan va zamin ro ba tamaame zibay hash khalgh karde. Ke un makhlughesh ro raha nemikone. Barash raahnama mizare. Ke un harchi mige bekhatere khodesh nist, balke bekhatere khalgheshe . . . Va va va va

baraye man ajibe ke ba wojoode inhamme khoobiha chera benamesh inhame jenayat o adamkoshi mikonand, balahaye assemani? bimarihaye khaneman baraddaz mifreste, azhame gozashte hame inharo gardane sheytan miandaze?

	Quote: Originally Posted by Last Breath
	Besyar khob! Kasi nagofte ke bepazirid !

	Quote: Originally Posted by Last Breath
	Bale, man ham agar faghat az yek zaviye va az yek surakhe kuchik donya ro bebinam, hichi azash nemifahmam . . .

shoma khodet dari hame chizo az haman darichehe mashkooke 1400sale pish minegari wa hanooz dar haman awalem seyr mikoni bedoone tawajoh be inke ma dar hezrehe sewom zendegi mikonim

Last Breath · 03-12-08, 16:29

	Quote: Originally Posted by effat27
	shoma dar haman maghta'i ke hastid bemanid!walipishnehad mikonam be wagheyatha ham bengarid!

Kodum maghta' ?
Man goftam agar jaaye shoma budam man ham ghabul nemikardam, shoma migid man be vagheiyatha "benegaram" ??

	Quote: Originally Posted by effat27
	baraye man ajibe ke ba wojoode inhamme khoobiha chera benamesh inhame jenayat o adamkoshi mikonand, balahaye assemani? bimarihaye khaneman baraddaz mifreste, azhame gozashte hame inharo gardane sheytan miandaze?

Taghsire une ke yek seri afrad be naamesh jenayat mikonan ??! Ya taghsire un afrad ?
Balahaye aasemani ? Ta hala fekr kardi shayad momken bashe khodemun ba'ese in balaahaa bashim ?? Gaazhaye mozerri ke baes shode Layeye ozone tarak bardare ? yani mikham bedunam az koja, enghadr motma'enni ke 1- khoda in karharo mikone 2- unham az ruye khashm o ghazab ?

"Aakharesh gardane sheytan mindaze" ?
Shoma shenidi ke gardane sheytan bendaze ?
Ya inke jaai gofte ke, inha taghsire sheytune ??

	Quote: Originally Posted by effat27
	shoma khodet dari hame chizo az haman darichehe mashkooke 1400sale pish minegari wa hanooz dar haman awalem seyr mikoni bedoone tawajoh be inke ma dar hezrehe sewom zendegi mikonim

Ajab . . . Agar in "hezrehe sewomi" ke tush hastim, faghat hamine ke shoma migid: Ensaane ba in fetrato, kamalo aghl tuye in donyaye be in zibaee va por shokuh, faghat umade chand dahe bokhore vo bekhabe vo badesh hichi . . . Nakhastim. Ma labe hamun "daricheye mashkukim" ke arzeshi ghaele baraye ma'naviyyat, tadabbor, haghaniyat, mohebbat va edalat.
Kholase . . .

(¯`·._.·[ لکم دینکم ولی دین ]·._.·´¯)

**ramin29** · 03-12-08, 23:28

	Quote: Originally Posted by last breath
	taghsire une ke yek seri afrad be naamesh jenayat mikonan ??! Ya taghsire un afrad ?

تقصیره اونه البته که خبر داره اینهمه جنایت به نامش انجام میشه و کاری نمیکنه! مگه اینکه قبول کنیم این خدای طفلکی از هیچی خبر نداره یا زورش نمیرسه از خودش دفاع کنه

Last Breath · 05-12-08, 00:08

	Quote: Originally Posted by ramin29
	تقصیره اونه البته که خبر داره اینهمه جنایت به نامش انجام میشه و کاری نمیکنه!

Vali man fekr mikonam khoda manzelato maghaamesh balatar az in harfas ke bekhad bekhatere soe tafahomha va eshtebahati ke bandehaye kuchiko za'ifesh nesbate be khodesh mikonan, aksol amali neshun bede . . . Aslan kasre sha'ne barash!

**ramin29** · 05-12-08, 01:30

	Quote: Originally Posted by last breath
	vali man fekr mikonam khoda manzelato maghaamesh balatar az in harfas ke bekhad bekhatere soe tafahomha va eshtebahati ke bandehaye kuchiko za'ifesh nesbate be khodesh mikonan, aksol amali neshun bede . . . Aslan kasre sha'ne barash!

حتما تازگیها براش کسر شان شده! قبلنا واسه کشته شدن یه شتر عذاب میفرستاد همه اعضا یه قومی رو هلاک میکرد! احتمالا با گذشت زمان سطح تحمل خدا هم بالا رفته

29-11-08, 19:35	#1 (permalink)
effat27 Forum God Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: alange Posts: 3,201 Credits: 15,551 Thanks: 751 Thanked 884 Times in 534 Posts	hayahoo baraye che ya chi? inhame hayahoo wa saro seda o begiro beband o teror o adamkoshi barye chi? chera ma hatman? bayad paybande mazhab ya din bashim? chera bayad az dastoorate ketabi peyrawi konim ke na negarande an moshakhs hast wa na mo'allef an, wa faghat chon ma shenide'im ke an ketab asemanist? az fardi ke khodra, wa ya be gofte'i oora namayande wa ya frestadehe afarinande giti dar rooye zamin mo'arrefi nemoode, peyrawi konim? agar tamame pishwayan ya begofteha'i peyambaran az sooye yek afarinande baraye hedayate? ensanha bargozide shodand, pas chera an afarinande dar dastooratash tanaghoz hast? dar torat laf az ghodrat mizanad daste daste bachehaye bigonah ra mikoshad wa moratab ghorbani wa kababe gooshte boz mitalabad wa ..., dar enjil mardom ra be solh o safa wa mehrbani dawat mikonad (wali dar tarikh mikhanim ke kelisa che bala'i bar sare mardome bigonah award), dar ghoran khodra tawana wa agah mikhanad wa farmane ghatle ensanhara midehad ke az oo peyrawi nakonand, tahdide besoozandane ebsanha mikonad, dar aseman koorehe adamsoozi darad wa harke ra khast be anja mibarad wa ya be baaghi mozayan be takhthaye jawaherneshan, ba jooyhaye shir o assal, dooshizegane bakere (hoori) wa pesarane jawan (ghelman) da'wat mikonad. gahi framoosh mikonad wa framine khodashra naghz mikonand, ba tamae ghodrati ke ede'a darad, nemitawanad, jeloye sheytan? ke dastawarde khodash hast begirad ke adamha ra monharef nakonad, ensanha ra be barde dari wa soo'e estefadehe jensi azanha tashwigh mikonad. chera bayad be "chizi" sajde? konim ke "oo" khodra (be goftehe digaran) ghader wa tawana midanad, wa farman be ghatl o khoonrizi , ferestadane balahaye assemani midehad, wali ghader nist goresngane efrigha ra komak konad, ya az froode bombe atom rooye sare mardome bigonah jelogiri konad? wa kholasse inke be goftehe torat oo dar hodoode 6000sale pish jahan wa ensan ra afaride, amma danesh wa kherade ensan chize digari ra sabet karde. afarinande'i ke khodra mosallat wa agah bar afkare makhlooghash midanad che ehtiaji darad ke inhame wasete bename peyambar o emam o molla wa ... dashte bashad? aya hamehe in dastanhaye ajib o gharib zaide wa tarawoshate afkare khode ma ensanha nist? __________________ امروز همان فردائیست که دیروز نگران ان بودید بــــــــــــنام خـــــــــــــداوند جـــــــــــــــان و خــــــــــــــرد º°¨ ¸„ø¤º°¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„ ¨°º¤ø„ ¸No to J.E!!!!!¨°º¤ø„¸ ¸„ø¤º°¨¸„ø¤º „¸¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤

30-11-08, 17:45	#3 (permalink)
effat27 Forum God Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: alange Posts: 3,201 Credits: 15,551 Thanks: 751 Thanked 884 Times in 534 Posts	doosre aziz, shoma e'teghad darid ke ghoran ketabe assemanist? moshkeli nist man bekhodam in ejazaro nemidam ke bekham aghidehe shomaro awaz konam. man be aghle khodam rojo mikonam wa nemitawanam an dastanhaye (az nazare man) bi paye o assas ra ke ba mo'adelat wa osoole physiki wa teknologie gharne ma moghayerat darad bepaziram. masalan che ehtiaji hast ke man hara'rooz 17 bar roo be makani be'istam ke sakhte daste ensan hast wa dar sarzamine bigane gharar dard, wa ba tekrare jomalati ba zabani ke be an ashena'i nadaram yeknawakht, be chizi ke anra nadide'am gowahi be wojoode an bedaham wa az oo khaheshkonam ke manra be rahe rast hedayat konad wa..., dar halike in khode man hastam wa ghalbe man, ehsase man wa zamire agah wa nakhodagahe man ke khoob ra az bad wa sahih ra az ghalat tashkhis midahad. az hame inha gozashte man nemitawanam khodam ra razi konam ke ghawanini ra bepaziram ke ba zoore shamshir warede sarzamine ajdadie man shode!! __________________ امروز همان فردائیست که دیروز نگران ان بودید بــــــــــــنام خـــــــــــــداوند جـــــــــــــــان و خــــــــــــــرد º°¨ ¸„ø¤º°¨°º¤ø„¸¨°º¤ø„ ¨°º¤ø„ ¸No to J.E!!!!!¨°º¤ø„¸ ¸„ø¤º°¨¸„ø¤º „¸¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø¤

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30-11-08, 16:19	#2 (permalink)
Last Breath Triple Ace Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Here Posts: 229 Credits: 1,124 Thanks: 183 Thanked 129 Times in 78 Posts	Chera peyravi nakonim ? Paybande chize khub shodan bade ? Agar saabet beshe ke Yek ketaabi joz haghighat chize digey nist, chera be goftehaye un del nabandim ? Edde'ahaye kheili ziyadi kardid. "dasture be soozandan" ???! In yekio dige nashnide budim !!! Hame chi shenide budim joz in yeki !! Bebinam, kasi ke be vatane man tajavoz kone, be ghowli Sili bezane tu suratam . . . bayad chi kar konam? Unvare suratamo neshunesh bedam, begam injaro faramush kardi?? Har adame Aagheli Defa mikone, mijange. Har ghanun va ghaa'edey dasture defa va istadegi dar barabare zolm ro mide. Shoma faghat ghesmate dastur ro gereftid va kolli era'e dadid ?? Ketabhaye asemaniye dige ro bahsi nemikonam, vali dar bareye Qor'an un tasviri ke dar zehne kheili ha hast, ine ke Qor'an chizhay mige ke khodemun midunim. Mage man nemifahmam chi khube chi bad ?? Niyaz be ketaab nadaram ke behem bege! Amma haghighate amr ine ke, Ensaan faramush kare! Qor'an be onvane Yaadavar va raahnama hast. In hame sokhan va da'vate be tafakkor, Aghl, gozasht, elm . . . . . Jaalebe, tuye threade "Hast ya nist?" ham bahs darim. Avvalin Aayei ke dar qor'an umade az Elm sokhan gofte. Kodum maslak ya mazhabe dige inghadr be elm, tadabbor va tafakkor ahammiyat dade ? Dorost nist ke yek seri edde'ahaye bi asaas gofte beshe, ke hich madraki nadare. (Hala madrake khodet ku ??) : Kaare nik => 160 An'aam - asraa' 23 Gozasht => 199 A'raaf Solh va samimiyat => Baghare 208 Defa dar barabare Zolm => Anfaal 60 Aghl va Andishe => Baghare 219 - An'aam 50 - Ra'd 3 - Nahl 44 Re'ayate Edaalat hatta ba doshman => Maa'ede 8 . . . Kheili ziyadan, felan in nemuneha dame dast budan.